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Singing into empty bottles
September 22, 2014
7:22 am
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DeffStarr
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Anyone ever tried it?

Sounds crazy I know, just feels pleasant

September 22, 2014
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Pretty sure I've tried it absent-mindedly lol. It does resonate like hell but I never went on to use it for any creative or technical purpose.

Singing into a cup is fun for experimental music though, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....fa8HZW66Fk

and that's just scratching the surface. there are tons of cool artistic options for singing into stuff. I know a song where the singer sang into both an egg carton and this weird resonating instrument. So if singing into bottles cool to you, go for it, invent a new effect.

On the other side of the spectrum, I recall seeing a video of a semi-occluded vocal tract exercise where you sing into a plastic bottle partially filled with water. Or something like that. So that's the other, technical use it could have...

September 22, 2014
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it feels pleasant because it throws air back to the cords and helps them seal easily. its a great thing to do after gigs. very therapeutic

September 22, 2014
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I've gotten lost in a bottle a few times...but that may be something different. Confused

"It's not how many notes you know. It's what you do with them."

September 22, 2014
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Basically it's a semi-occluded phonation, like lip-trills etc. That's probably why it feels good.

September 22, 2014
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Martin, there is an exercise that a lot of phoniatrics use around here, with a large tube and making bubbles on water (while voicing).

To me it looks like the same idea, semi-occluded, but is there any particular reason to do it instead of lip bubbles for example? Less chance of tension?

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September 22, 2014
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people -for example ingo titze- often say that semioccluded phonations can regulate pushing in excess, and the pressed phonation, i really dont believe in this anymore as i know i can still push/press and constrict on a semioccluded phonation (on liprolls, straw, straw on a glass of water, tongue trills, V, D, bottle, pillow, humming, ng, etc...), so as the time passed i just ended prefering simple vowels, and also vocalfry/creaking sirens as onset of whatever clean mode and pitch Kiss

September 22, 2014
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Singing into an empty bottle? Never done it before nor have I ever heard of it being used as an exercise. The most I've done with an empty bottle is just sing a note to find the resonance of it, but I never went beyond that. Martin did fill me in on the exercise with the bottle and water, though. That seems like a potentially useful one. However, I, like Gera, have never really felt any true benefit from semi-occluded exercises; I feel I always get much more out of just simply vocalizing on a vowel.

September 23, 2014
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@Felipe

We use the same approach here in Denmark. The effect is similar at the vocal fold level as other semi-occluded phonations. However, when phonating into water the vibrations are fed back through the tube which helps release tensions (vibration helps loose muscle tensions - you'll notice that your whole face and neck is vibrating). Also you can use warm water which have a soothing and therapeutic effect for some people, and you can have a sip of the water as well. You can also adjust the resistance with the amount of water you use (a higher resistance usually forces the client to use correct support). It's easy to do, so not much instruction is needed. And finally, it's good to make the client aware of tensions, because if he/she tense too much, the vibrations in the face (especially the cheeks) and neck will be less than when they are relaxed. So they learn how to make sound while staying relaxed, which is ultimately the goal of this approach.

So it acts as a semi-occluded phonation, but with extra benefits. Wink

September 23, 2014
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Thanks Martin, this is very useful.

In special the idea of controling the amount of water :).

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