The Singers' Hub - Topic: Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.1 Felipe Carvalho on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p431 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p431 Thanks Martin, this is very useful.

In special the idea of controling the amount of water :).

]]> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 17:02:28 -0400 Martin H on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p430 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p430 @Felipe

We use the same approach here in Denmark. The effect is similar at the vocal fold level as other semi-occluded phonations. However, when phonating into water the vibrations are fed back through the tube which helps release tensions (vibration helps loose muscle tensions - you'll notice that your whole face and neck is vibrating). Also you can use warm water which have a soothing and therapeutic effect for some people, and you can have a sip of the water as well. You can also adjust the resistance with the amount of water you use (a higher resistance usually forces the client to use correct support). It's easy to do, so not much instruction is needed. And finally, it's good to make the client aware of tensions, because if he/she tense too much, the vibrations in the face (especially the cheeks) and neck will be less than when they are relaxed. So they learn how to make sound while staying relaxed, which is ultimately the goal of this approach.

So it acts as a semi-occluded phonation, but with extra benefits. Wink

]]> Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:50:30 -0400 Marnell Sample on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p423 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p423 Singing into an empty bottle? Never done it before nor have I ever heard of it being used as an exercise. The most I've done with an empty bottle is just sing a note to find the resonance of it, but I never went beyond that. Martin did fill me in on the exercise with the bottle and water, though. That seems like a potentially useful one. However, I, like Gera, have never really felt any true benefit from semi-occluded exercises; I feel I always get much more out of just simply vocalizing on a vowel.

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:17:43 -0400 gerardo on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p418 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p418 people -for example ingo titze- often say that semioccluded phonations can regulate pushing in excess, and the pressed phonation, i really dont believe in this anymore as i know i can still push/press and constrict on a semioccluded phonation (on liprolls, straw, straw on a glass of water, tongue trills, V, D, bottle, pillow, humming, ng, etc...), so as the time passed i just ended prefering simple vowels, and also vocalfry/creaking sirens as onset of whatever clean mode and pitch Kiss

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:50:08 -0400 Felipe Carvalho on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p417 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p417 Martin, there is an exercise that a lot of phoniatrics use around here, with a large tube and making bubbles on water (while voicing).

To me it looks like the same idea, semi-occluded, but is there any particular reason to do it instead of lip bubbles for example? Less chance of tension?

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:23:51 -0400 Martin H on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p409 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p409 Basically it's a semi-occluded phonation, like lip-trills etc. That's probably why it feels good.

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:53:04 -0400 TommyTheHat on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p407 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p407 I've gotten lost in a bottle a few times...but that may be something different. Confused

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:27:26 -0400 daniel formica on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p406 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p406 it feels pleasant because it throws air back to the cords and helps them seal easily. its a great thing to do after gigs. very therapeutic

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:24:28 -0400 OwenKorzec on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p402 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p402 Pretty sure I've tried it absent-mindedly lol. It does resonate like hell but I never went on to use it for any creative or technical purpose.

Singing into a cup is fun for experimental music though, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....fa8HZW66Fk

and that's just scratching the surface. there are tons of cool artistic options for singing into stuff. I know a song where the singer sang into both an egg carton and this weird resonating instrument. So if singing into bottles cool to you, go for it, invent a new effect.

On the other side of the spectrum, I recall seeing a video of a semi-occluded vocal tract exercise where you sing into a plastic bottle partially filled with water. Or something like that. So that's the other, technical use it could have...

]]> Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:39:16 -0400 DeffStarr on Singing into empty bottles http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p400 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/singing-into-empty-bottles/#p400 Anyone ever tried it?

Sounds crazy I know, just feels pleasant

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