Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy

Ooops....disregard that. I just woke up and I thought you asked what KTVA stands for..

Sorry

Felipe Carvalho said

In my opinion:

Its like learning martial arts using books and video lessons. There may be one or another program that has better results... but do you think it's enough to let you survive in a fight against a MMA athlete for example.

Practice singing and if you really want to learn, 1 on 1 lessons.

Video's, books and similar programs can be good for learning fundamentals, for some. But you would need a teacher to really excel and learn. A real teacher is the only one who can work with you hands on to tell you that, although you think you are practicing hard, you just did ten thousand repetitions of an exercise the wrong way!! A video or book doesn't "see" these things.

Using martial arts as an example, similarly, we fall into the trap of thinking we are ok. Like defending a punch. Somehow, learning by books or video or even by teacher but never actually "fighting." ( you can replace this example with singing). We fall into the trap of learning...or thinking we are learning to protect ourselves from being punched. But we then unknowingly assume we won't ever be punched because we know the "techniques" to defend against it!!! HA! Wrong!!! Take it from a guy who has been stabbed twice....if you are in a fight and actually "see" a knife, consider yourself lucky. Real life doesn't work that way. When you practice defense against a punch your first thing should be "expect to get punched somewhere along the line when in a fight." If you are defending against a knife, expect to get cut. Your only mission is to survive.

Many a grown man...or even young adult...who has never been hit, when they master "blocking" or defending attacks totally freak out in their first real encounter when they get whacked and their nose starts to bleed or gets broken. At the very least they stutter step, meaning they hesitate for s second and instinctively grab for their nose. Major and possibly deadly mistake. This is because they haven't been coached or taught correctly or hands on by a proper teacher. And they haven't "applied' their technique in a live situation. You know....like SINGING, over and over and over rather than just focusing on technique perfection? And that's a bloody nose....what happens when a tooth goes flying. How about this? This happened to me. After you counter your attackers assault and hit him, his tooth gets knocked out and embedded in your knuckle!!! Ahhh, the videos don't tell you about all this stuff do they?

Ok, singing isn't like street fighting or MMA or martial arts but the message is the same as far as learning a skill applies. Fundamentals and reality are split paths. learn the principles but don't be bound by them. You want to learn how to defend a punch you first have to know what you are defending....so get hit a few times....a lot of times. You want to learn to sing? Get a teacher who can adjust mistakes as they are happening before you commit them to muscle memory. And most of all sing!! And singing in your bathroom isn't like singing live where.."shit happens." You need to know how to adjust on the fly. This comes from experience only...not a book.

Guys, I just noticed something strange happening on the Modern Vocalist Forum. How come whenever anyone refers to KTVA or even the name Ken Tamplin it is instead called "another vocal program". Its almost as if it was edited by the mods... But I checked and almost every instance his name or program is mentioned, it simply says "another vocal program" in place of the real names. Does anyone know the reasoning behind this?

Edit: Actually it says "another vocal instructor" in place of Ken's name... This is kind of bizarre.

yep, this is probably because lunte isnt ready, he has not his voice fully developed, he isnt able to use fullvoice IN ANY POSIBLE WAY above f#4, and well, ken tamplin surely can do it, because his support, his cord closure plus support/glottal compression, his resonance and vowels are spot on, and luntes its not, he uses just lots of twang with flageolet

Phil Moufarrege said

wabba_treads420 said

Guys, I just noticed something strange happening on the Modern Vocalist Forum. How come whenever anyone refers to KTVA or even the name Ken Tamplin it is instead called "another vocal program". Its almost as if it was edited by the mods... But I checked and almost every instance his name or program is mentioned, it simply says "another vocal program" in place of the real names. Does anyone know the reasoning behind this?

Edit: Actually it says "another vocal instructor" in place of Ken's name... This is kind of bizarre.

Most likely because Robert Lunte absolutely despises Ken and doesn't want to have him promoted on his forum.

I noticed that the KTVA forum also posted an official thread for the forum terms of use recently. One of them says "Don't promote other vocal courses or forums, we're here for KTVA". I sincerely hope that Rob did the same to keep people from getting confused by Ken's method, instead of just doing it out of spite. Still, that wouldn't make sense since TMV has talked about all sorts of methods since the beginning. I wonder if they had some sort of agreement between each other not to promote their programs. Very strange...

@ Geran Absolutely! KTVA is probably the program for you if you want streamlined, straight-to-the-point easy to grasp information

Ok I haven't said anything on progress lately for KTVA. Well I've been on Volume 1 for about a month (Actually I've had it since about April/June, but I had summer school this past summer so I was busy with that :/ ) and my bridging skills are becoming more effortless w/ the vowel mods. Right now, I'm focusing on building muscle memory for the way the vowel mods feel in my throat at a certain note.

I think it's all just Rob abandoning his old idea of an open forum. That forum is no longer "open" due to his strategic moderating. Now he has merely created the illusion it is and then moderated out all the talk that's against his method, and then readers are deceived to think, oh well TVS must be the big popular method so I should go to him. After losing students due to his competitors on that forum he just can't allow it to be open to other methods to do that anymore, being a full time voice teacher.

To me, that hurts Rob's credibility. I mean I'm sure people are starting to notice this censorship going on behind their backs. A potential customer is going to join the forum and think "if he can't be honest to his forum users, why should I spend my hard earned cash on someone I can't trust?"