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November 8, 2014
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I haven't posted any recordings in a while so what the heck. Nothing extraordinary here just me having fun!

The song is Strange Colores by Avey Tare and the Slasher Flicks.

https://app.box.com/s/1xlfdmgcossn5rvtvs53

This is an off the cuff performance during my vocal ensemble class at Berklee. A bunch of students didn't show up with charts that day so to fill the remaining time we went into spontaneity mode: after some hesitation (I've been so used to over-preparing for performances), I just went for this and managed to teach the band the song on the spot in about 15 minutes. This is only the second run through the song together. I wasn't well rehearsed on this song either and barely warmed up that day but oh well, more than anything this was just an experiment in putting together a performance spontaneously and having fun.

Side note: I'm playing piano in this as well. It helped to be involved in the instrumentation to help direct the band a bit more.

Critique is welcome of course!

November 8, 2014
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funky!!
Keep your vowels more narrow bro!!!

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November 9, 2014
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You guys did that in 15 mins?

Thats the advantage with being with music students everyday. Wish i could have some jam sessions like these when i have a 15 min break :-). When i had a band, i would love to go into improvisation mode, or arrange some covers "on the go". Its a good way to find new ideas and inspitation.

I also liked to hear you in a more funky setting. It could indeed be funkier with narrower wovels and maintaing compression. And i think you can do it, i don't remember where, but i have heard you singing in this kind of tight mix elsewhere (but this mix shows up easily only when the voice is warmed up). Plus there is a lot of phrasing, it requires a good deal of energy, which you bring, even if the pitch could be more centered.

November 10, 2014
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quentin said

You guys did that in 15 mins?

Thats the advantage with being with music students everyday. Wish i could have some jam sessions like these when i have a 15 min break :-). When i had a band, i would love to go into improvisation mode, or arrange some covers "on the go". Its a good way to find new ideas and inspitation.

I also liked to hear you in a more funky setting. It could indeed be funkier with narrower wovels and maintaing compression. And i think you can do it, i don't remember where, but i have heard you singing in this kind of tight mix elsewhere (but this mix shows up easily only when the voice is warmed up). Plus there is a lot of phrasing, it requires a good deal of energy, which you bring, even if the pitch could be more centered.

Yeah I think around 15 minutes (give or take 5 minutes) for everything (teaching the song, playing it, making corrections, playing it again), I didn't time it but logically and based on how it felt I think that's accurate

Yea being around music students is so awesome. You can get results very quickly because everyone knows what they're doing. However it can be fun to grind it out with less experienced musicians too, that maybe just have some raw untrained talent - it takes longer but working with them but it's still a very creative and fun experience in its own right. You can pretty much play/jam/learn stuff with any musician with talent and stylistic similarities and have some good fun at the least, and much more than that, start a band or collaborate on songwriting. So it's always a great idea to make musical friends who are a similar skill level and/or stylistic preference.

Yeah I can sing in a mix it's just hard for me to get into reliably.

I've done a lot of heady mix stuff in the studio, do you mean that (like the mixed stuff you hear on my soundcloud, how I sing above Ab4 a lot)? To me that is not true mix though because it's giving up the chest connection. It gets the volume right, but the sound isn't convincing enough to stand in the foreground (you'll rarely hear me do it without layering or background vocals etc). I'm more interesting in learning to mix in a way that still holds its ground in belty applications and just sounds more comfortable and released to the listener. Goes without saying you've gotten very good at that Quentin. Smile

Also in my thread about my song Glow you can hear me getting into that more convincing mix on the later demos but it's something I can barely "sit" in comfortably on great vocal days. Easy enough on a scale but singing in songs it's a whole other challenge.

As Phil said a big problem of mine is going too wide on the vowels. I think that's caused a lot of my instabilities with the mix.

November 10, 2014
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Owen,

I went on your Soundcloud and i was indeed talking about your last Glow snapshots. I can hear a connected sound which will let you with greater freedom in wovel choice and in the interpretation than the heady TVS kind of mix (although we could state its not really a mix but more pure head voice with twang).

I may be projecting my own vocal challenges but training mixed voice in the A4 area and on tight wovels like in your Glow song is a big challenge. At least it is for me, since i have to resist the urge to belt the notes out and using open wovels (if i want to make it sound like mixed voice).
I mailed Phil about feeling like being left with either heavy belts or a covered light mix (that was too "euh-ish" for my taste), and he showed me the way to shed up all the weigth i had on my belt to find a place where i feel like belting, but with the minimum of effort.

This kind of sls exercice makes you sound like a complete idiot for about fifteen minutes but you got the guarantee to sing like a bird for at least half an hour!

By the way, while listening to your Soundcloud, i noticed that even one year ago, you had already a robust chest voice up to G4. I also hear a full chested A4 (On Carved upon a wall, at 3.20). And as you got a beefy head voice, it is going to blend very nicely once you will be able to stabilize your mixed voice.

The "heady mix" you are doing above Ab 4 has a quality on its own but is definitely restricted in use. Honestly, i don't think you could do much more than what you achieved in your songs. It can be polished, but i think you sound close to what someone can do by using this way of singing. In your top head range, you sometimes sound close to what TVS Advanced students are doing (notice that when this way of singing is featured, how singing full phrases is avoided at all costs and also how high in the range you have to sing to maintain a chesty illusion). Whennever you want to sing between Ab4 and C5 and have to deal with narrow wovels and a lot of energic consonants and phrasing, the unblended quality shows up and its no longer viable.

All that to say that what you do in the Glow cover is defs what you need to lean on.

November 10, 2014
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agreed with everything Quentin.

I've gotta spend more time on that SLS exercise, he showed me it too but I haven't had time to do it for a long time yet

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