The Singers' Hub - Topic: Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.1 Phil Moufarrege on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p747 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p747 Couldn't agree more Dan. Just like school teachers, many people "learn to be a teacher" by just studying and getting "certified". This doesn't mean one can teach...teaching requires a high level of sensitivity to the individual you are teaching and hearing what they need. You can always tell who doesn't have this sensitivity when the student feels a certain way (it's written on their face) and the teacher doesn't pick up on it in any way shape or form!!!

Teaching is much more than just knowing the method you have to teach. It has to do more wtih how well you can communicate it TO THE PERSON. Meaning, if they don't understand complex stuff it means you have to change how you explain it.

The trick is a teacher has to be able to feel the dynamics of the realtionship and the problems etc.

By the way fellas, I feel this is the same type of awareness that you need in a romantic relationship or to communicate with animals and understand how they feel. :D So many times I see friends or people picking up their pets in a way the pet simply doesn't like or trying to chat with the opposite sex and can't see why it isnt working and they have NO IDEA yet it is so obvious to me

]]> Sat, 01 Nov 2014 21:47:28 -0400 daniel formica on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p745 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p745 I agree but without a teacher and a teacher that has good ears to be able to hear whether the student is curbing twanging edging pouting whimpering overdriving belting grunting growling narrowing crying modifying shifting mixing blending supporting using metal etc. the student is at a loss and could really hurt themselves vocally. the student is also at a loss if the teacher just teaches them the same way they teach everyone regardless of gender race culture.I have sat in on countless numbers of vocal teaching and therapy from other teachers and witnessed this first hand, the teacher doesn't really listen to whats happening in the students voice and just goes on with the "method of structure" just like teaching students at school the same old curriculum and not letting the student step out of the box. The student is better off mimicking their favorite singer. (which is what a lot of my favorite singers did to learn). Though their are new singers who hear it in a program and bam get it.

]]> Sat, 01 Nov 2014 14:12:47 -0400 Martin H on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p743 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p743 Actually, two of the most respected "methods" (EVT and CVT) is based on the philosophy that every singer is different and needs different things. And to my knowledge those two specific "methods" are also the only ones with such a philosophy. It's the core of their pedagogy and that also sets them apart from all the other "methods" out there.

And what makes them a "method" is structure.

So basically, nothing new under the sun Daniel. Kiss

]]> Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:21:43 -0400 Felipe Carvalho on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p742 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p742 Awesome Dan :).

]]> Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:16:47 -0400 Phil Moufarrege on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p740 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p740 thanks for the love bro it's inspiring!

]]> Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:18:15 -0400 OwenKorzec on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p731 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p731

Phil Moufarrege said

I will be posting this in the articles section soon Dan hang tight bro !

I think the take home message (at least to me) is that if one is going to build a program to sell, the focus should be on "Until the student understands the specific purpose of each exercise and can determine what he or she needs at a specific time in their growth as a singer. From there, they can teach themselves, which I believe to be the most effective.."
Rather than just handing them a bunch of exercises.

This is what I am currently working on...

And thank you for working on it Phil. And thank you Dan for all that you've brought to the vocal community as well. You guys are the best. Smile

]]> Thu, 30 Oct 2014 01:40:46 -0400 Phil Moufarrege on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p729 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p729 I will be posting this in the articles section soon Dan hang tight bro !

I think the take home message (at least to me) is that if one is going to build a program to sell, the focus should be on "Until the student understands the specific purpose of each exercise and can determine what he or she needs at a specific time in their growth as a singer. From there, they can teach themselves, which I believe to be the most effective.."
Rather than just handing them a bunch of exercises.

This is what I am currently working on...

]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:08:04 -0400 OwenKorzec on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p728 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p728 Excellent post! I agree and this is why I prefer one on one lessons with teachers. Because then it becomes a game of "how do I help Owen sing better" rather than "how do I help an imaginary typical singer sing better" which is basically all programs are doing. Obviously a teacher teaching ME will teach ME better than rather than if they're just guessing what kind of singer is singing along to their program

]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:05:49 -0400 daniel formica on Methods http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p727 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/methods/#p727 METHODS
Still after all these years?

You have heard all the names, explored all the options, been floored by all celebrities, etc..

But yet something doesn't work for you.. You do all the exercises, follow all the directions and still have a problem with your G4 your A4… What's the deal?

Well I'm here to tell ya!!! You need to study my method!!!!!

Now I would just be another Teacher trying to sell you my "method" if I did that..

That is not what this article is going to be about. I'm going to tell you why I personally don't believe and have never followed a "method". Now, I have a lot of friends that teach a method or sell a method and they are all good at what they do. So this article is for the singer's that try method's but still end up confused.

I'm going to be quick so pay attention.

The voice is about balance. Balance in resonation, balance in cord closure, balance in vowel color, balance in breath flow, balance of intensity. Methods choose to be dominant in a certain area "head voice method" '"chest voice method", "cord closure method" "easy onset method', "appoggio method" "crying method" etc.. They all have their own specific goto which worked for them when they were learning.. Now the problem is "when they were learning" not you, but them specifically..

Sorry but that is it. :) You see, a chest voice dominant program might work if you're young. The instrument is young and can handle this but in time could cause problems, Just as a head voice dominant program might work for an older heavy speaking singer but not for a young soft spoken singer.

As a teacher I listen to the speech and the attitude of the singer and then create a methodology for him or her specifically.. This is the problem with programs. They give the same exercises to whomever is studying. Which I believe is harmful to the singer. a quick easy way to look at this would be, one singer squeezes and presses his way to the top and the other singer flips early all the way to the top, and my "method" teaches them the same. That is a deal breaker right there….

We all have different attitudes and speech habits which in turn effect our voice.. Each voice needs to be taught personally. Until the student understands the specific purpose of each exercise and can determine what he or she needs at a specific time in their growth as a singer. From there, they can teach themselves, which I believe to be the most effective..

Have a good one!!
Daniel
http://www.yourvocalteacher.com

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