The Singers' Hub - Topic: Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/ Simple:Press Version 5.7.1 Phil Moufarrege on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/page-2/#p1114 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/page-2/#p1114

Lowbass said

Phil, iv send you a mail but your mailbox is full, so it didnt go thru.

I just cleared up my inbox, please email me at info@grow-the-voice.com
Sorry about that.

As for teachers, there' several on this board!
Here's my page:
http://www.grow-the-voice.com/.....ssons.html

]]> Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:07:15 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/page-2/#p1112 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/page-2/#p1112 Thanks for clearifying, and yes i need a teacher. I really want to move forward and i think im ready for that step now.
Enthusiasm isnt enough, this is more complicated to understand than i could ever imagine.
Maybe i should have tryed guitar instead, any good teachers out there? :)

]]> Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:02:16 -0500 Felipe Carvalho on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1111 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1111

Lowbass said

Your right Felipe, but easier said than done :) at least for me at the moment.
Iv tryed yawn, raise soft palate, lightening mass but that last put me in falsetto.
There is parts missing, and maybe its a "heavy" bass from the beginning that makes it harder?

Unlikely Lowbass. Its just as you said yourself: easier said than done. What I said was on the sense of not trying to interefere with it so directly, but finding out what is getting on the way and trying to remove it.

Yawning and raising the soft palate, making it lighter, those are solutions that are prescribed WAY more often than they work. And they do not solve anything, they just make you do certain things. If those are not the things YOU need, it will just cause confusion.

I would definitively hear what Phil has to say and give it shot :).

]]> Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:40:30 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1110 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1110 Phil, iv send you a mail but your mailbox is full, so it didnt go thru.

]]> Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:39:05 -0500 Phil Moufarrege on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1090 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1090

Lowbass said

Ok Phil, thanks for the opportunity. I will come back to you soon. I hope you are prepared for a tough case! :)

They are my favourite - especially helping the "tone deaf". Bring it on! Cool

]]> Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:08:39 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1088 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1088 Ok Phil, thanks for the opportunity. I will come back to you soon. I hope you are prepared for a tough case! :)

]]> Mon, 12 Jan 2015 01:59:29 -0500 Phil Moufarrege on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1087 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1087

Lowbass said

BTW Phil, i didnt mention, thats a really good and informative video.
I dont have that "pulldown" sensation in the lower muscles, i usually have/had it on my vocal folds :( not always but i think iv used that to make an even heavier voice talking.
When im practising headvoice and falsetto, shall i avoid the lower chestvoice totally for some time?

Hi lowbass, I'm glad the video clarified some things for you.

Lowbass said
When im practising headvoice and falsetto, shall i avoid the lower chestvoice totally for some time?

It depends what your issue is, I still haven't heard your voice yet Cool
What you think your issue is may be something completely different. When I hear you, I can tell you exactly what you need to do.

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:35:11 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1086 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1086 Bit by bit ill hopefully come closer. Iv done lip bubbles many times but never really felt any good from them until now.
The light coordination came much easier after doing them, thanks Owen!

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:50:58 -0500 OwenKorzec on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1085 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1085 You need twang to go higher but if anything gives you problems like that you could be overdoing it or doing it wrong

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:24:38 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1083 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1083 Ok, thanks Owen for your input!
I guess i can let my lowest chestvoice C3 and down rest and just use it in songs and practice from there and up.
(I never have any problems between C2-C3)
One problem is when im working in headvoice is if i twang to "much" when going higher i loose the coordination totally and it takes some time to gently go back and find it again. Shall i drop that or do i need the twang to reach higher?

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 06:57:24 -0500 OwenKorzec on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1080 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1080

Lowbass said

BTW Phil, i didnt mention, thats a really good and informative video.
I dont have that "pulldown" sensation in the lower muscles, i usually have/had it on my vocal folds :( not always but i think iv used that to make an even heavier voice talking.
When im practising headvoice and falsetto, shall i avoid the lower chestvoice totally for some time?

Nope, practice all of it. If you want you can devote an entire day to falsetto/head and an entire day to chest and alternate like that, that is fine and often very helpful. But I wouldn't recommend practicing only one or the other for weeks/months, otherwise your voice will start to favor that one coordination you are training, and the other one you are neglecting for weeks/months will get a lot worse.

Btw one way to combat what you're describing of a heavy weighted down voice is to just practice humming and lip bubbles on scales or slides up and down your current range in a relaxed medium volume. If you do that every day, especially earlier in the day, I think you'll find your speaking habits will improve naturally over time.

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 02:49:31 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1079 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1079 BTW Phil, i didnt mention, thats a really good and informative video.
I dont have that "pulldown" sensation in the lower muscles, i usually have/had it on my vocal folds :( not always but i think iv used that to make an even heavier voice talking.
When im practising headvoice and falsetto, shall i avoid the lower chestvoice totally for some time?

]]> Sun, 11 Jan 2015 02:27:54 -0500 Lowbass on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1069 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1069 Yes your right. ill come back with a sample when i feel a bit more ready. im just practising higher notes, i dont use them in songs, yet.
This is so new for me, its kind of embarrising. when iv started i had no headvoice no falsetto and no belting. I guess im lacking in all areas, muscle, coordination, phonation, and support.etc. Its just 6 months ago when iv started to find falsetto, and if i dont practice in 3-4 days i almost loose it and its really hard to find it again.

]]> Fri, 09 Jan 2015 05:47:52 -0500 Phil Moufarrege on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1068 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1068

Lowbass said

Ok, thanks for your replys.
So when its way up high iv done something wrong, and its not the larynx itself, its the tension i create on the way up.
I can feel that im doing something wrong and its partly i guess because of incorrect support, but i guess its something else also.
A strange thing is i can do this "whoop" sound loud (staccato) without feeling strained, up to C5 but not a siren.
I have to change to falsetto already at G3 where my break is when doing sirens, which also was my highest note when iv started this Journey.

Hi lowbass, you will have to post a recording if you want detailed help with what your vocal issues are and how to fix them. Through text it will go back and forth forever LOL

]]> Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:15:17 -0500 OwenKorzec on Low larynx or not? http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1067 Vocal Technique & Making Music http://thesingershub.com/forum/vocal-technique/low-larynx-or-not/#p1067 Lowbass do you have any way to record yourself? If you post an audio file here we will be able to hear what is going on in your range and we will be able to help you a lot more.

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