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Singing at High Level
October 14, 2016
2:32 pm
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Felipe Carvalho
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Hey folks, i would like to have your opinion in this one.

This is an expression that I come around quite often, and everyone seems to understand the meaning, although I never saw it being defined.

What does it mean to you? What is a high level performer/singer? Is it the same as "being famous", or do you know high level performers that are not that well known. What defines it in your opinion?

Subjectivity is totally fine! All opinions and views are more than welcome!

Felipe

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October 14, 2016
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I think it can mean different things to different people. Personally I don’t pay much attention to such terms but when I hear it said I interpret it like this. I think there are different levels of many different things and we always start at the bottom or the lower level. This doesn’t necessarily apply to ones level of skill but rather overall accomplishment and knowledge as well as performance level. For example there can be baseball players that are better than some pros but who just haven’t “made it” yet. At the moment they are still playing small venues…not even minor leagues, maybe just college games or less. Excellent players with skill at times better than the best but just a bit unpolished or maybe just not discovered yet and still working their way up.

Then after years of hard work they make it to the next level…maybe minor leagues… and they learn more, get more notoriety and meet more important people. Finally at some point they make the major league and are big time now…high level. This is full time and it’s all they do. They practice professionally, get picked up in limos, have specific rules to follow, make the big bucks and learn from the best of the best at no cost to them.

I think the same thing applies to singing/music. You can be a better singer than even Steve Perry or Paul Rogers yet still be singing karaoke or in small clubs or busking for coins on a street corner. When you finally work hard enough and make your mark then you enter high level performing, get real money and notoriety and all the professional work that goes into that…lawyers, managers trainers, stage people, rehearsals, bands, stage hands….high level. You can do things at a small level or a big one with all the bells and whistles. The latter takes a lot of work.

That’s how I view it.

Tommy

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October 14, 2016
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hehe

deja vu

October 15, 2016
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TommyTheHat said
I think it can mean different things to different people. Personally I don’t pay much attention to such terms but when I hear it said I interpret it like this. I think there are different levels of many different things and we always start at the bottom or the lower level. This doesn’t necessarily apply to ones level of skill but rather overall accomplishment and knowledge as well as performance level. For example there can be baseball players that are better than some pros but who just haven’t “made it” yet. At the moment they are still playing small venues…not even minor leagues, maybe just college games or less. Excellent players with skill at times better than the best but just a bit unpolished or maybe just not discovered yet and still working their way up.

Then after years of hard work they make it to the next level…maybe minor leagues… and they learn more, get more notoriety and meet more important people. Finally at some point they make the major league and are big time now…high level. This is full time and it’s all they do. They practice professionally, get picked up in limos, have specific rules to follow, make the big bucks and learn from the best of the best at no cost to them.

I think the same thing applies to singing/music. You can be a better singer than even Steve Perry or Paul Rogers yet still be singing karaoke or in small clubs or busking for coins on a street corner. When you finally work hard enough and make your mark then you enter high level performing, get real money and notoriety and all the professional work that goes into that…lawyers, managers trainers, stage people, rehearsals, bands, stage hands….high level. You can do things at a small level or a big one with all the bells and whistles. The latter takes a lot of work.

That’s how I view it.

Tommy  

Thanks for your reply bro.

That's very interesting. Would you say, in a very resumed way, its when the levels of demand for quality gets high?

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hehe

deja vu  

haahaha yeah, unfortunately I can't access TMV (and that thread) anymore, so I will just continue here.

Felipe Carvalho
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October 15, 2016
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Felipe Carvalho said

That's very interesting. Would you say, in a very resumed way, its when the levels of demand for quality gets high?

 

Yes, I guess you could say that is one aspect. It's the whole ball of wax. Everything gets bigger. To be honest I'm not really sure...in the case of "high level singing/performing"...that singing and performing can be separated as a term. I don't know what a high level of singing might be other than quality, schooling, vocal type etc. That could apply to anyone. But performing reaches many levels and the work involved is great. However, vocal ability doesn't always equate to performance level as far as popularity is concerned. I loved Joe Cocker and actually like his voice. I liked his performances too. It is a matter of opinion as far as who sings Beatle songs better; him or Paul Mcartney. Who has the better voice? Many would say Paul and I might agree "technically." But I prefer Joe Cocker. So with that in mind the lesser singing quality performer may pack the house (higher level show) more than higher level "singer."

So yes, I think the bigger you get the more work involved and the more everything grows and so does the pressure to maintain (high level) quality.

Confused yet? Laugh

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