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Adding grit on mixed voice
September 20, 2014
4:38 pm
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quentin
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Ok guys, a very specific topic.
I have no troubles adding grit on chest voice, but when i want to put it on mixed voice, i just end up belting and not being able to maintain the mixed voice qualities.

I recently found a way to add grit without losing the blended qualities of mixed voice. Yet, it works only in the very high range.
It is quite loud so i had to leave my flat and did it in an empty building.
This is a poor Bruce Dickinson impersonation, i don't even know what i am singing :-) but you got the idea :

https://app.box.com/s/2oqqd6vq8mlsqu0v8ioz

Is it how it is supposed to sound?
Is there a way to have this distorsion coming earlier in mixed voice, like for instance on A#4 or B4?
I can't really nail it if it isn't really high pitched, or it really sounds strangled.

September 20, 2014
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It sounds good to me quentin but I'm just listening as a listener listening to someone sing a song...not as a teacher critiquing technique. As a listener it sounds good. I have no insight on your questions...sorry. But I am interested in hearing responses from those in the know. I add grit to my singing often but normally it is a much lower range. For me it's more "rasp." On occasion I do use it for higher notes like falsetto. However no matter how I use it I would never be able to explain it. That is what makes me interested in reading responses. For me it is just "imitation of sound." Like I was a child playing and making believe i was a monster or an animal or something. I just make sounds and apply them to pitches and melody. But there are some songs where I do falsetto type of grit or rasp where I somehow use my nasal passages to do it. It's very nasal somehow. I couldn't explain it. I use it in a Ray Charles song I do (on my youtube channel) called "Drown In My Own Tears" as well as some Joe Cocker songs...Feeling All Right" for example, among others.

"It's not how many notes you know. It's what you do with them."

September 20, 2014
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Adding rasp on Falsetto is even more intriguing for me, not the light rasp, but the heavy, growly rasp many early blues singers had. You mentionned Ray Charles and Joe Cooker, yeah, they had a pretty gnarly voice. I tried once to add this kind of grit on my falsetto and it didn't work well :-)

September 20, 2014
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Yea, I hear ya. If there's an actual technique for it, I have no idea. I just do it. Like mimicking a sound. On the lower tones it's easy but on the higher ones I can't do it on everything.

"It's not how many notes you know. It's what you do with them."

September 20, 2014
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You're starting to get it Quentin. Remember I told you that it seasons over time. You couldn't do this before. Now it's showing up. You're doing great.
Mastering glottal compression is where it's at for this.
I have some exercises I can show you when we train together next. Doing extremely long scales on a single breath at max power develops this really good. What you are looking for is to roll up as much weight as you can with as little breathiness as possible. If it gets too breathy you will hurt yourself.

Keep doing what you are doing and it will come more and more.

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September 21, 2014
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We did last time an exercice aimed at adding weigth beyond full voice. I have tried it but i have an issue with correct support. When i support that much, i start to feel pain in my lower back. I will wait our next lesson as i don't really want to mess that up.

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