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Gravity (John Mayer cover)
October 12, 2016
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Hey everyone,

I haven't recorded anything in a long time for a number of reasons. The main thing is the laptop I used crapped out and works when it feels like it. I downloaded Audacity in two other computers but can't get it to record and I'm so illiterate in this crap that I gave up. My recording skills suck and will never improve. Smile Anyway, the computer I used to use also used to cause the vocal track to skip almost like a scratch in an old vinyl record and apparently it's worse now and does it more. Today I dug out the old laptop and after messing with it for an hour got it to work but I had to work fast as it skips more the longer you try to record. I recorded a song quickly and it only skipped about 3 times so I didn't push it and try to do another take. I would have liked to try a better take but no big deal.

This is a song I am working on at the moment and thought I'd let you hear what I have so far. I'll probably sing it next month live so I want to start working out how I want to approach it. I know the recording isn't great but I don't really care as recording isn't my thing. I'm just trying to get the song worked out as far as how I want to do it live, the phrasing and feel etc.. I'm not really thrilled with the backing track but...
Thanks for the listen. Smile

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https://app.box.com/s/dc0p1172kqnseash4xsxs4lqd1uiwasl

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October 13, 2016
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Ok round two!

I came across a better backing track/instrumental on youtube done by a guy named Jesper Lund...really nice stuff. So I thought I'd give it another go but it seems my computer just wasn't having it. I set up and gave it a test run and that's all I got...one take. It skipped twice and I saved the track and tried again but the skips got worse and so I tried again and it was getting worse. One more time and then I gave up. So at least I got one shot. I would have liked to have redone it but oh well. The two skips are at 1:32 and 2:12. These are minor skips in this recording but most times the track is useless. But this is a better backing track than the first one with the crappy backing vocals. This is just Piano and Guitar.

https://app.box.com/s/f3sgqrzakkp04x6h7ka2qkyygg9jwgx0

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October 14, 2016
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that reminds me of one time when I was working on an original and i was using another guys drum track from wikiloops.com . of course I have the real sketchy "studio in the corner of the living room" setup, complete with the broken office chair that squeaks when u move. Like...every time you play guitar lol

So I recorded my guitar parts etc for a few hours until I got tired so I called it a night. The next day im listening back and I had all good takes and i was happy except I was hearing a squeak. Oh man i was pissed. I had doubled guitar parts so I was trying to isolate each track to find the squeak and I couldnt find it. i was all freaking out until I realized that the squeak was in the guys drum track lol

October 14, 2016
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Yea, my laptop, when combined with my recording program makes a loud static sound in my headphones. It started as a once and awhile thing only if I recorded too long. Eventually it got worse and I'd have to keep stopping and then restarting my recording again. Sometimes I'd go through...no lie...30 takes. Then my voice would go...lol If the static comes during instrumental portions there is no skip, if it happens during vocals it comes out as a skip. Sometimes its so bad a whole word is lost. It messes me up sometimes because I tend to unconsciously rush before it happens and then the timing is off or phrases are rushed or cut. Apparently now its hopeless....I'm done...lol.

I've had the squeak too..lol. When I used to make blues recordings with a partner, I'd send him my vocal track and once the vocals were alone with no music you could hear my floor squeaking. Ha ha. I hear ya on the cheap recording studio. I record in a room full of junk and stuff we refuse to throw away. If you ever see any of my Blues video's you can see I'm standing in front of a closet. I have the camera on a shoe box and the laptop/interface on my wife's desk. I hate recording and have a mental block for learning it. It's sort of like Math! I'm done with it. Smile

Tommy

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October 15, 2016
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TommyTheHat said
. I hate recording and have a mental block for learning it. Smile

Tommy  

recording is where the rubber hits the road though....without it whats the point? lol

October 15, 2016
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The point is (for me) "live."
I've used recording only to practice, and my own personal feedback. I have a YouTube Page but my recordings aren't any better and I have them there ..well...just because...lol. I made them I may as well use them. But imo many singers spend a lot of time recording an making perfect (supposed) showings of their skill. But is it? Effects, tweaks, auto tune, mixing and fixing, all to make them sound better. When you sing live its all you and if people like it (or dislike it) it's you. There's no going back and fixing it. Thats not usually how they sound live.

I make my recordings that way. Like live. The only thing I touch when I record other than clicking "record" and "save" is the volume on my recording program. On my interface I have no clue as to how to even control those volume knobs. I sing into the mic a few lines then check the volume in the recording program (audacity)...adjust it then record. Hit save and I'm done. I'm 60 years old and not looking to become "famous" Laugh I'm just having fun, always trying to improve my singing, altering my music direction/style as I get older and working on my presentation for when I sing in front of people which isn't much. Once every four to six months for anywhere from 3 to 10 days. Sometimes I don't sing at all for long periods.

But I understand recording is how the young and ambitious try to sell themselves and move up to the next level. (high level?). Then they sell CD"s and become famous. I understand and I guess if I were 25 I'd be doing that (maybe). But now? That's not me....my ship has sailed. I'm just having fun making believe I'm something I'm not.
When you hear a recording from me its presented as "live." I don't fix it. I fix (try) singing problems I might hear or alterations I may want to make in my performance....but never the track. That's just putting makeup on an ugly face. Smile

Just like the way I don't change what I sing just to please people. I know not many here are into my style of music but I don't sing rock anymore so I do what I like. I think its corny for an older guy like me to sing rock to a track (without being in a band) so I've gone back to my roots quite a few years ago. Blues, Motown/R&B and soul. I don't change that for popularity. Tommy does Tommy....period Wink

Sorry for the long explanationLaugh

Tommy

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October 15, 2016
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TommyTheHat said

But I understand recording is how the young and ambitious try to sell themselves and move up to the next level. Wink
Laugh

Tommy  

im on the other end of the spectrum. "Live" means about zilch to me at this point. Trying to scrape around and find some other guys who are half competent and committed to go play at some puke joint for $50??? Nah. Way too many factors that would be out of my hands.

BUT on a recording I can be as good as the Beatles or Led Zep or VanHalen....or at least im free to be as good as them if I have the talent

Prince is gone, Elvis is gone, Jimi is gone....they will never play live again....BUT those studio recording live on. Thats my take on it

October 15, 2016
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I hear ya. Let me make it clear though, I'm sure not doing anything special when I say "live." Like I said, it's more me playing superstar than anything else. You know the thread about "high level?" I'm the bottom rung dude. I'm a star in my own head Laugh

Two or three times per year my wife and I cruise. I have cruised the same cruise line for years and have been on many. So many that I know a lot of the crew members and actually keep in touch with some of the bands, and entertainers. While on board I sing every night and have been in a few (at times cheesy) shows, have sung with the band a couple of times and quite often sing in the piano bar with the piano player till about 1:00am. Sometimes this is because other guests have heard me sing and ask if he'll let me which then becomes me singing there every night. Other times its just him finding out I sing from someone and then asking me (which gives him a break) and again I sing every night. Last month I ended up singing more songs (by his request) than the Piano player himself. Actually I sing in the piano bar every night on 95% of my cruises. I think I have a video of me singing Georgia On My mind in the piano bar on this forum somewhere. Its on my youtube page.

Aside from that I do a crap load of karaoke on the cruise which I love and hate. I do it only because it gives me another outlet to sing, but I hate it because...well because its karaoke. It feels cheap (low level) to me. But I'm a bit weird about it. I practice it at home and rehearse "my show" lol. I kind of make it like the Tommy show. I sort of have this alter ego...ha ha. I only sing songs I have practiced /rehearsed and know inside out. I don't stay anywhere near the screen with the words and I don't read the words. I just perform like I know what the hell I'm doing. Like I said....it's all in my mind man...on the cruises I'm freakin' famous!!! Laugh So the bottom line? I ain't really doing shit. But I'm having a great time at it! So many people ask if I work for the cruise line!!
In the Bahamas last month I was watching a band playing in a courtyard venue and they were playing " Sitting on the Dock Of the Bay". At the end the singer asked if anyone could whistle the ending part and everyone who tried failed. She was on her way back on stage when she suddenly eyeballed me and said how about you? Well, this is one of my songs so I just did my thing; she said anyone who can whistle like that should be able to sing and next thing I knew I was onstage singing! That seems to be how it goes for me all the time. Right place at the right time and I sing a lot that way....lol.

So the song I posted here is my next new addition when I cruise again next month and I'm working on it now...it's new so I haven't ironed it out yet although it isn't anything real difficult. I just want to get the feel and emotion/phrasing down to my liking.

Again...I'm not saying I'm doing anything right or even any good. I'm just saying that this is my singing and my having fun with it. My own weird claim to fame....lol.

Edit: I just want to also note that when I cruise that is the only time I sing. I never do, nor have I ever done ,karaoke anywhere but on a cruise. I have never gone out to a bar or karaoke while at home. And I never will....that isn't my thing.

Tommy

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October 17, 2016
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Hi Tommy, even though I never heard this song before, I really liked your version. You really sound like a blues singer, very nice timbre. I think it reminded me of Ray Charles in some parts. I jus missed a bit more reverb and delay in your voice, for my taste. Good job man! Keep'em coming!
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October 17, 2016
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Thanks Gneetapp Ray Charles is one of my influences along with David Ruffin and Wilson Pickett with a little bit of Joe Cocker Smile I'll have to dig out one of my old covers .Smile
Yea I hear ya about the delay and reverb.... but, mixing isn't my thing. I know two things....record and save....lol.

I'll find a Ray Charles recording I've done (I have a few of them) but in the meantime how about a few of my Blues recordings from a few years ago I think there are 6 of them here.

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