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Cover - Paradise Lost by Symphony X (By Mivke :P)
April 16, 2015
5:32 am
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Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback in the cover in progress thread. It helped a ton!

Here is the final version (for now, might come back in a year or so)

If you have the time, please take a listen :)
I'm grateful for every listen and SUPERgrateful for every comment.



April 16, 2015
12:45 pm
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Sounds very nice.

Singing sounds spot on.

The production could still use a bit of work but you are around 80% in that field so good job. The main issues I noticed were:

-The vocal is mixed a bit too quiet at parts
-In the future you'll want to try to find a backing track with higher quality. Sounds like you used a heavily compressed one (e.g. 128kpbs mp3 or AAC), but you'll want something at a much higher kbps, or better yet a lossless format like WAV, AIFF, or FLAC. The reason being is that when you use an mp3 backing track (even if you "convert it to wav" - it will still be mp3 quality) and then compress the track to mp3 afterward, you get this double-mp3 effect, and only on the track and not your vocal, causing not only a washy sound in the backing track but a difficulty in the vocal and track sounding cohesive together because the vocal will not have this washy sound. Sometimes we can't access the uncompressed WAV files (especially if you don't have it on CD), but if not I go out of my way to find a high quality mp3, aac, flac, something like that. it will make a world of difference.
-the vocal still isn't sitting quite right in a way that a different mic or reverb could help with. but it could also be mostly due to the issue i mentioned above.

Killer job on the singing though. Sounds like a beast of a song to conquer and you nailed it

April 17, 2015
5:34 am
Phil Moufarrege
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Hi Mivke,
Good job man. What I think will take you to the next level is the following:

- improving your cord closure. If you can work on singing your scales lighter (but still in your real voice not falsetto) you will begin to isolate the correct muscles and relax the incorrect muscles that are tending to grip in this audio clip.

- focusing your resonance to a point. Currently you let your vowels go out way too wide, many rock singers have this issue. I recommend learning how to thin the resonance first before adding any kind of spread (even on the EE vowel):

- lastly, if you are interested I would recommend studying a little bit more ballads because you tend to sing very straight and stiff even on the lower notes (rockers always do this ha ha ha). Learning how to fade in notes and add embellishments will really help you make your singing more seasoned.

I hope you find any of this helpful, thanks for sharing your singing with us!
good job!

Online Vocal Coach, Singer/Songwriter
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April 20, 2015
6:30 am
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@Owen - Thanks for that extremely detailed listen man, helps alot! I actually had Felipe help me with the mixing, but I recorded alot of the parts too far from the mic which kind of makes the reverb make it sound weird and it's hard to make it sound close and personal. Really good tips though, I will try to incorporate them in my next cover AND I will make sure to "eat the mic" then :P

@Phil - Yeah, I could really feel some gripping here and there. Mostly on the semi-high stuff which I guess is normal. Russel Allen is a beast to try and imitate :) Interesting point about the focusing of the resonance. I will experiment with that and try to find what you showed.
And lastly yes, it can become very stale and undynamic (which sadly is not the case for Russel Allen on this song :P). I will try to make a cover on All of Me on The Modern Vocalist forum, hopefully I will learn to use a bit softer dynamics then.

Thank you both for the listens and the tips, they help alot as I've stated already!


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