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MEV - Progress Diary
December 11, 2015
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Hey all,

Creating a little corner of mine here.
I´ve been singing for about a year under various local coaches and in the past 2 months with Phil, who has really skyrocketed my progress.
For a long time I was extremely shy about singing until recently I decided to flip the switch and started a Youtube channel with the idea to actually document my progress as a singer and artist.

Here´s a first video that shows my first 9 month progress in all it´s misery and glory heh:

And a more recent one:

I put up a video once a week and hope to share with you guys a bit more in depth the journey and use your feedback on the way!

December 12, 2015
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I definitely hear improvements man. Who were your other coaches, jw?

Sounds like you're finding your way and developing more confidence in the things you're being asked to do. Can't wait to hear you sing Gravity in its original octave, and do it better than John Mayer. 😉

Foreal though, the progress you seem to have made in the last 2 months is huge. Keep it up dude. Laugh

December 13, 2015
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Finding my way more and more with every day!.
Phil´s guidance has been tremendous

Previous coaches I had were couple local music school teachers in Amsterdam and in UK. Can´t say I wasted my time as I did achieve "relative" progress but it doesn´t even come close to what I´ve come to know in the last 2 months.

Thanks man and I´ll keep you posted on that Gravity Laugh

December 13, 2015
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If you could go back to the very beginning, what would you have changed about the way you practiced? Aside from pitch awareness training, it seems? Your ear for vocal pitch sounds like it has improved quite a lot.

December 14, 2015
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Singing with more power and projection. Turns out as I wasn´t projecting enough volume I was not allowing my voice to develop properly.

December 14, 2015
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Real solid progress man! I think it's so important that you are willing to document this journey and I think since you started it so early on, you might as well continue with it for a long time and keep capturing your progress like you did in that first video. If I were a beginning singer again, I would love to see that kind of video you made there, but covering a span of all the way from beginner to great singer. If you decide to do a grand transformation video like that, it would be a very valuable video to so many people, and if you leverage it in the right way it could lead to some really good popularity.

I think a lot of people are misunderstood about the journey of singing but you really seem to understand it! It's a really gradual improvement, and getting access to a better teacher really speeds you along, but nonetheless, investing that "time and effort" you mentioned is absolutely necessary for improvement. The other thing people need to realize is that nearly any problem with the voice can be fixed with training...as long as you don't give up, you will always be able to get better. As you continue progressing you'll find that to be more and more true and your voice will show it. I think you will go a long way as a singer because your mindset and actions are leading you in the right direction. And you'll find that the fact that you found Phil's guidance so early on in your journey is a big advantage for you as well.

Just curious, what are the main things Phil has taught you so far?

I agree with the improvements you guys both mentioned, what you mentioned in the first video has improved so much stronger since your training with Phil, and I also notice the pitch improvement Slow Start mentioned. In your first video both of these things were improving but not nearly as much and as quickly as they did in the last couple months. The most interesting thing to me was that in your first video, toward the end of your work on each song you would start really nailing the pitches, but then when you would try a song while playing the guitar too, or try a new song, your pitch would fall off again! I never experienced that specific effect in my journey but it was just fascinating to see that because I can relate to it in other aspects of my singing journey. It's really a good example of how the process isn't as simple as adding on to what you've learned; you also have to make sure you don't undo your old progress each time you add something new.

Anyways, it's so great to see you here and I hope you stick around and keep singing and sharing your journey! Smile

December 14, 2015
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Meverik is a great example of someone who I have been teaching how to create sound completely from scratch again in a completely different way to how he was doing before. It's completely different from just taking a good singer who strains and needs to learn how to sing without strain. For people like Meverik, vocal programs and courses don't really help, they need very very specific tutoring.

I am walking him through absolutely every little detail even down to how he moves his lips when he pronounces words. We have been working on how to support, how to project, getting rid of the nasality, getting the placement of the vowels right, removing tensions etc.

and now that those things are becoming more automatic I am focusing on how he phrases words in songs and his rhythm and how he can just overall learn to SOUND GOOD when singing in a comfortable range - musicality. These things he is getting in the lessons with me but it will take longer until he is able to just hit record and get the techniques to work automatically. old habits die hard.

We have been training for approximately the past 2 months or so, once every 2 weeks or so.

He's a pleasure to work with and has a great vision and drive. I love his idea of tracking his journey and I think his channel can become really good over the next couple years. I can't wait to see where you are in a year Meverik!

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December 19, 2015
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@Owen
Really appreciate your insightful post Owen! Will keep on coming back to it If I ever need a kick in the butt Wink

The danger of undoing your previous progress as you add more elements to singing, take up new songs is very real and I think you make an interesting point with that. Finding the balance with learning new things and ensuring that what you have learned before is on lock and ingrained in you is tricky. Deep learning ...?

Besides the transformation videos, what other kind of videos would you say back when you´re beginner would have appreciated to see?

@Phil

Likewise Phil! I´m so stoked for what is to come and definitely in it for the long-run. Let´s make it a good one!

January 22, 2016
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Did an overview video of the last 4 months and subsequently about my 1st year of singing.
I think the progress is most obvious after the 10th month when I started to train with Phil.

See what ya guys think!

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